The BIGGEST Building We've Ever Built: Layout
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- In this video we start building the BIGGEST building we have ever built and it all starts with a good layout. When constructing such a large building, accuracy during the layout will make or break a project. The biggest building we are starting will be 96' wide and 304' long! Practically an entire football field! As important as layout is, using the right tools to get an accurate and square is also important. Below are some of those important tools
Stabila LAR350
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Stabila LA180L
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Stabila LBM 1000
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Dammit Kyle... If you build them any bigger you're gonna have to factor in the curvature of the earth...!
You mean the earth isn't flat?? 😉
Don't ever go to a broiler house site.... This is small, and there is only one of them...... 54 - 96 x 300 - 600 is common......
What is this curvature thing you speak of? Earth is flat & moon landing never happened
As long as the site is scraped flat, curvature is irrelevant. Gravity-based leveling tools, however, will be useless outside of the center of the site.
Did you know that the towers of long suspension bridges with tall towers have a greater distance between top - top than bottom - bottom? It can be several centimeters/inches.
The golf cart is your tool belt for this project.
That’s what I use mine for.
legit. the owner should loan him one.
@@peterbelisle7768 He should work out where he gets a nice brand new one as a bonus when he's done...one of those fancy ones
Starting a build that size with a two person crew is just utterly impressive. Most contractors wouldn’t touch one that size with a small crew like that.
Just think it's probably gonna take them a year to build
Precision is an art all unto itself...
Back in the early to mid 90's when I was siding houses for a GC, we had one (1) framer who built 1500+ sqft, plus triple garages, all by himself. The ONLY help he ever had was the crane operator to fly his steel and trusses, and the operator NEVER got off the truck.
We loved siding his houses! All his soffits were at 12 1/2" and straight as an arrow! It took us 40 hrs to side and trim out one of his houses, while all the other framers houses took at least another 20 hrs!
Had one framing crew that really sucked to side behind... they had a main floor over a walkout basement grow 3/4" mid way down the back outside wall, amongst other snafu's...
@@matthewwarfield4302 you learn little tricks and intricacies when working alone and tbh framers that are use to working by themselves having another hand just gets in their way and slows them down. I’ve seen a few framers like that.
Nah
Agree
May I give you a tip from 22 years of experience on how I square a building that size- I call in The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers! WTH man, RR Buildings keeps killing it. Love these videos
I totally understand this build, I had one done last year that’s 280x120. I can’t fathom a two-guy crew but Kyle and Greg are equivalent to 10 people. There were 13 guys on the crew that did mine.
Wow almost 34000 sqft!! In my dreams.
I love the efficiencies I learn watching Kyle’s videos. Two man crew with an owner operator is what serves the customer the best. Impressive.
He has the most to lose if it isnt right!
My son works for a post framer. The owner of the company watches this channel for ideas and how to's. He told me the owner has even talked to Kyle and got advice. If that's true, it must of been awesome!
Wow awesome
Kyle is the Man!! Watching for probably 4 to 5 years!⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐👍@@RRBuildings
Kyle: "Watching you walk all the way down there while I'm waiting was like... BEEP BEEEEEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEP!!! 😂😂🤣🤣 (Thank you, Michael!!)
Welcome to fencing lol.
For big jobs ,GPS pins save a lot of time.
A few tools needed.
Save your back and get the paint gun with a roller ,white paint doesn't overlap an utility color ....red/green/orange/blue.
You need 3 tape measures and leave at least 2 left in place until the day is over. Thought I heard you say your tape was fiberglass?
Binoculars.
Bright braided (not twisted masons string),I prefer pink.
Walkie talkies and a golf cart are helpful.
Flag your strings so some bozo doesn't rip through it lol.
I have an L fence coming up with a 4600' on one leg,and 3400' on the other this will be my challenge.
Thankfully mine has to primarily look good ,and secondary follow contour.
Very cool job for you guys!
An old school tubing water level could be a backup.
4,600’ x 3,400’ fence. That’s a lotta fence. You gotta have the right equipment for that.
My first co-op assignment in engineering school was with a survey crew. All co-ops in the field, but the crew chief was the son of a professional surveyor.
We reported to a P.E.
Surveying in the winter was tough because the ground was frozen and the pans, scrapers and ‘dozers made the transit vibrate so badly you couldn’t see clearly. We were setting up grid lines to monitor hydraulic fill quantities. We would start at first daylight until they started moving dirt, and at mid-morning break time. That’s all we could do when the big equipment was working that frozen ground.
I found out that running the transit & recording in the field book by hand (way before computer spreadsheets and satellite transits) was cold work. Running a range pole and pounding survey stakes was way warmer.
@@stevenslater2669 the modern surveyors have a big advantage with GPS.
I heavy forests it can be difficult.
I work in coastal Ga.
Sometimes you need a 21 ft pipe as a site pole,the worst was a pin 45 ft into the marsh.
This is basically a football field in size. Wowsers 😮
The Leica distance measure DISTO eg. DISTO X6 with Leica DST 360 sitting on a tripod could help with either supporting the tape measure or replacing the tape measure with distance measurements and angles. The Leica products are solid.
I was just thinking the same
I grew up in central Illinois and always wondered why there seemed to be a constant stream of golf carts getting trucked south on the interstate. Never realized a big manufacturer was so close!
I would have probably paid a survey crew the small fee to find your mid points and corners. Such a big job with so many ways to get it wrong.
Customers must have great confidence in these two guys.
Total Station. Bingo!
TY for saving me the post, there’s a point when string and lasers are not the solution, long ago it was transit work, now a Total Station does this handily.
Your shop project has been cool and as always the detail that you put into it was impressive. Also enjoy your paid building projects. That is a huge building that you have underway. Amazing that 2 guys are able to pull that off.
I believe your building footprint is large enough to warrant hiring a surveyor for speed and accuracy in determining the building location and layout. It may have made a more interesting and educational video.
Exactly
I appreciate the fact that they're doing it the old school way. If for no other reason than to demonstrate that it can be done with good accuracy.
@@dlg5485 I'm not sure a $2000 Layout Station would be considered old school.
Survey guy could be booked for 6 weeks. It's not always so easy to get them out.
@@krististanley8508 Right. lol.
Just how many girls do you run with, Kyle?!?!
You're going to get in your steps on this one 🤣
Its gonna take a year to build that. Plus finishing your shop at the same time.
Let me get this straight.this is for a golf cart supplier and you guys are doing all that walking?
8:58 "You want me to hold this for ya?"
"Nope" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Greg is so awesome as a "sidekick".
Be sure to video the truss delivery for this 96' wide building. What is the overall design height for this monster sized building?
As much as I appreciate your desire to challenge yourself and not only learn but prove to yourself that you are capable, one man with a GPS Total Station could have laid that out before lunch, and you still could have made an interesting video about the process.
29000 sqft with two guys is either crazy or crazy impressive 😅
Building big shop with two people that just stunning impressive and I guess 50 cement trucks
Total station layout would have been sweet for this
Pretty massive building! 2 guys laying out for the ground is pretty impressive, I would say! Lots of walking back and forth and pretty time consuming!
It should make you feel good the for the guy you already built a storage building for is calling you back to do one that is almost twice the size!
I think breaking it down into 1/4s is a great way to help keep your line and square over that much distance!
I’m looking forward to some indoor disc golf.
Listening to the way you are checking and rechecking the maths makes me know that you are going to nail this. It is a huge building and I am looking forward to following this one. Time spent at preparing the groundwork is time saved correcting mistakes. 😎
Just to wrap your head around this size, a football field is 300' x 160'
Not to mention that sting lines sag without any wind. 100’ is about the max I’d try to go with a string, and even then it has to be extremely tight to be accurate for height.
water level. This is the answer.
Great job as always with the videos, love the content, looking forward to this series.
So, you think this is tough try laying out an airport with a hundred dumbasses bouncing around looking at their cellphones, DUH
Cheap f....hire a surveyor to pin some accurate control. You can't pull tapes that far accurately. You might bs a lot of people on here but the people that know...know.
Gonna need radio headsets on this big boy! 😂
FYI please don't cut you concrete forming tubes, it totally defeats the purpose of them. The smooth edge is supposed to continue to below the frost line. An augered hole without a form creates tons of little edges that frost can grab a hold of and "heave."
Should have the magni on this job
You are going to need a golf cart and walkie-talkie radios for something that big.I can't even see Greg at the other end. Good luck with this one. 👍👍
That's one hell of a Barndo! ;)
I can’t wait for the machine that lifts the trusses 👌🏻👌🏻
Ребята, вы гении, я вами восхищаюсь!!! Здоровья вам, сил, благоролучия.
You should start a series on fitness for tradesmen
Wow, that big and I’d have a survey crew set corners just to be safe.
I suggested the same on IG or purchase a GNSS receiver eg. Emlid Reach RS3 and/or optical level eg. Leica Geosystems 840386 NA532 to confirm those points especially with distances like that.
Would have been interesting to see how many steps you walked during this layout!
16,900
@@RRBuildings HA! Thanks for that!!
Open intercoms will work better for communication
This build is going to be epic.
I’m no mathologist, but isn’t that about the dimensions of a football field? Impressive.
What I am waiting for is throwing the slab...
I wanna see kyle build a covered rodeo arena
Would be slightly bigger than this, but much wider
Wow I can’t even get a 24’ x24’ walls an roof built on top of a 24’x 24’ concrete pad because of price 😅
@RRBuildings are you going to use Magni on this build? Seems as you would save so much time with it :D
It's hard to Fathom that size of building but it's literally an acre roughly. an Acres 208 by 208
That's a mini-mall ... Great project and video! Curious to know how this lifts costs - when you take the efficiencies of post-frame to this level.
Your building is basically a football field sized building.👍
Why would you not just have it set out by Surveyors? Seems pretty odd not to. Also very curious who things work where you live. You seem to be just guessing where to put the building. Is there no plans showing where everything has to be because you seem to be just winging it. Gotta say that was painful watching you constantly trying to convince yourself your setout was good. A surveyor coukd give you and offset point for everyone of your posts.
Walking-talkies would great!
cup and string telephones
they both have a phone, and isotunes, that's easier...
Simply amazing! You guys are killing it, I guess you needed a project this size to afford the new RR shop! Good luck guys!
You gotta get a power wind tape for those long distances. I got one for work. Every crank is even to like three or four cranks to a normal tape.
Kyle,
You are an amazing person and builder!!!!!!
At 304 feet, from end to end, there is just shy of half an inch to make up for, considering the earth’s curvature.
5,280ft = 8” (1 mile)
2,640ft = 4”
1,320ft = 2”
660ft = 1”
304ft = 0.46”
-Set your bench mark at midpoint and shoot in both directions, effectively cutting it down to a quarter inch, each way (0.23”).
Epoxy a nut to the side of the tape measure so you can use a nut driver socket on your drill
Well, THIS IS EXCITING!
Can't this be done with a transit
Inspector doggo 🐕
If only there was a golf cart Greg could use as he walks 300' over and over...🤣
It’ll be interesting to see the truss and post requirements for this monstrous building! 😮
Perfect layout with the laser….you guys are worth everything!
“ good enough for the girls I run with “ love the job site banter lmao can’t hear those jokes anywhere but construction that won’t land u in hr 😂
I've used a scooter on a big sites to move around always help to save some time and walking ;)
About setting out things I'm wondering why you dont use a surveyor/geodesist to set things up their instruments should be the higest precision avaible.
You're gonna build a 100 yard building with 3/16ths variance. I can't build a desk without getting my trim router out. Good lord.
@15:05 , masterful profanity edit
Also, for those distances, why didn't you guys just throw in a single ISOtunes earbud and call each other?
This is not big like the warehouses they built off the turnpike here. One up the road from us, 922,000sqft. Just scale up the numbers...wiring, steel, concrete...
get e bikes to trvel the site , tape stretch can be 6 inches careful, use metal surveys tape no stretch, just heard u say stretch lol, watching i know feels good to say the obveious lol brain injury spelling eros comon
Greg--great content! But as a Surveyor it kinda makes me cringe seeing a building of this size laid out this way. Always enjoy your videos!!!
This guy either LOVES camping, oooor he might be selling campers hmm :)
I bet you stabila has tables on how much the tapes grow at what temperature.
Really looking forward to seeing you guys take this on.
Regards,
Nisus Construction
I am really curious why the building is these particular dimensions. I get the 96 as even multiples of 4 or 8 ft. But why the odd 304 ft., when an even 300 ft seems more logical, with my lack of knowledge about the design.
A building of this scale should be framed with metal stud walls.
How ever you present the content is good for me!
Time for some surveying equipment maybe? Could even hire a crew out for the corners at least. A multi-antenna GPS (differential) can get damn close too but that could be even more expensive I bet. You aren't doing a ton of these though - right? lol
how would a giant building like a super walmart do the layout. I would guess they have 4 of those corner lasers
Certified survey giving you 4 corners and Finished Floor elevation is what, $1,500 in your area? Cheapest insurance you will ever buy.
totally useless math. That 1/4" deviation in 150' is only .00166 of an inch per foot. I would be that a CNC machine is not even that accurate.
I'm not sure if someone else has commented this or not but instead of trying to square the entire footprint of the structure, couldn't you break down the size into more feasible footprints? This way you could square it in series. I'm not entirely sure of the capabilities of your equipment but if you could identify the short end of the building and square the first 1/2 or 1/3 or 1/4 of the total footprint you should be able to use the first print to establish and square every succeeding footprint until you've got the entire structures footprint established. then you can run your manual verification using your tape the see what's what and double check your equipment's accuracy. You could make the corners of each smaller section land exactly on a post location so there is no confusion there as well. This way you have a continuous footer layout with minimal obstruction while staying precise.
This may be more time than its worth but I've been following y'all for few years now and have learned a great deal and I know you search for perfection in a job. Quality over quantity every time. I am curious to know if you think this would work out for you or if it would just take too much time. I just figured it would eliminate some potential error from trying to stretch a tape over 300 foot when you could cut that down to 1/4 or 1/3 and be more precise and accurate with your layout.
Any way, love the content! I look forward to every series and I refuse to buy a tool before looking to see if you've got a tools day review first!
I love the day count on the work - sometimes you miss the time it takes to accomplish this work
For god sakes. Spend the $35 and treat yourself to a wand for your marking paint. All of that bending over is killing me just watching.
My first thought was that you need someone with a total station to help lay that out.
If you think 304" is easy with todays tech, try 505' in the mid '70's or 0ver 700', in the early 80's without it.
After you breakdown the layout into 4 sections, shouldn't that improve diagonal measurement accuracy of each section to square up the layout?
YES! Lookin' forward to this one!
it says the accuracy is .07mm/m. that equates to about a 1/4 over 304' roughly, not bad. your laser level will probably be a lot more than that. set the laser in the middle
Are you gonna hold off on finishing the interior of RR headquarters?
I mean i sure he may find time but business comes first he is spending money on his building this building will make him money and put they are a previous customer of his i would put my own building on hold to do this just as he chose to
That’s what rain days are for 😂
I'm excited to watch this build.
looking Forward to watching this one .. and a Build this size can bump your name and Rep up AWESOME for you ... Congrats on this contract
Love your content!
On such a large building, how do you account for the seasonal change in lumber from hot, humid summer to cold, dry winter?
I can't believe "pros" are still showing up to job sites wearing shorts
If I price a building and the guy shows up wearing shorts I literally wouldn't even look at his estimate
You should buy a couple of electric scooters.
Ukrainian subtitles please!!! I am a carpenter from Ukraine, I make wooden furniture but really like your videos
I couldn't tell from the video but is this the biggest building you guys have ever built, Kyle